Dual Recording—why do you do it?

It seems that lots of folks dual record their SYSTM workouts with a bike computer. I’m curious: what advantage does that give you?

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During Full Frontal I have my wahoo head unit on to record from the start of the 5 min effort. It gives an average wattage for effort which helps me with pacing (alongside an idea of what I think I can do…). I reset it and do again for the 20mins.

Suffice to say it’s not really worth it for the 1min as it’s an all-out effort (and I can’t see by that point anyway).

It’s also nice to have a different thing to focus on.

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When I dual record it’s to either:

  1. Work on my L/R power imbalance
  2. Have a backup of my workout
  3. Compare power readings
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No advantages. Well, except for when I dual record on SYSTM and Z***t so I can complete all the routes (I completed the Uber Pretzel while doing my KOS last Friday). But when dual recording on m Bolt, it’s mostly to test out my Bolt and sometimes to merge all my workouts together to get overall numbers instead of having to find an app to do it for me. Then there was last year when I was doing Virtual Ironman races with very specific time lengths, so I would use my bike computer to match those races separately. And then sometimes it allows me to look at my numbers directly on my stem during hard efforts so I don’t have have to look up at my tv.

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For me I dual record only to compare power on my trainer vs crank power on my bike.

I do it do all the workouts and rides are stored in the Elemnt app. They’re all in one place then, I can look at the numbers in the same place/format, and I prefer it to doing the same in Strava. Ideally I wouldn’t have to dual record and SYSTM would like to the Wahoo app for indoor rides, and Elemnt would send the outdoor rides, but unfortunately that doesn’t happen.

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I use the Wahoo training balancer because I ride outside on weekends and, since I’m retired, when the wetter permits it (yes it rains in the Desert and damn it’s cold). This is used in conjunction with Training Peaks Premium training variables to keep me from overtraining. I’ve found myself in that situation several times this year. Staying in that condition can lead to overuse injuries that take months to heal.

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I record everything on my Garmin fenix 6 watch to keep all my training (swims, bikes, runs, etc.) in one place and keep training status, load, etc. up to date.

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Probably the stupidest answer but it’s just muscle memory. I always start my head unit. Maybe it’s the 7 concussions (5 in the past 7 years) or I’m just an old 62 year old…

Oh man! That is NOT good!

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@AkaPete I only dual record for strength and some of the yoga sessions so that HrTSS data can be computed in Training Peaks. I don’t dual record on the bike.

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I dual record only to keep Garmin’s load system up to date. Due to this year’s weather and the fact that i’m retired, this happens very infrequently.

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After the warm up and first interval I’m pretty much staring at the stem. Having a bike computer there with watts on display reminds me why I don’t feel so great and why I can’t lift my head up to look at the computer monitor.

I hear the videos are quite inspiring and funny. I wasn’t aware of that until I started reading these forum posts!!!

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I don’t yet but am thinking about it. I’d use a Garmin so then the data would be available in Garmin Connect to calculate Training Status with. As it is now, the workout data from SYSTM are uploaded and viewable in Connect, but for some reason, cannot be used in the process of calculating Training Status. This seems odd because apparently Trainerroad and Zwift data are accepted.

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  1. Partially out of habit as Garmin didn’t used to calculate training load from Sufferfest sessions and I like the greater detail shown in Garmin Connect like time in zones :nerd_face:
  2. Partially for reliability as Garmin has since implemented then broken then fixed(!) said training load calculations from the Sufferfest :laughing:
  3. Mostly its because I use the training load analysis on my Forerunner 745 to figure out if I should focus on base, aerobic or anaerobic training next, so I really need it to be accurate!
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Unfortunately I’ve noticed recently and I might need to either update my Neo 2 or Fenix 6S Pro that my Power and Cadence are now sitting at 0 on my Fenix when I’m double recording with SYSTM it could also be affected by my Stryd Footpod which also connects to my watch even though it shouldn’t as I’m on the bike so the Power and cadence should come from the bike as I’ve already selected Bike Indoor on the watch

I do too, partly for backup but also to force me to use the Garmin datascreen I use out on the road when I train. I find I tend to ignore the Garmin data when outdoors so I’m training myself to use the data screen more often.

I thought I was data obsessed until I read what you all do. More power to you!

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Same here with my F5X, Training Load doesn’t update if you just link Wahoo to Garmin Connect